[Tropical] Tropical Cyclone Discussion

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Sun Sep 24 15:41:07 CDT 2023


WTNT42 KNHC 242040
TCDAT2

Tropical Storm Philippe Discussion Number   6
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL       AL172023
500 PM AST Sun Sep 24 2023

Microwave and satellite data indicate that the center of Philippe
has re-formed to the northeast of earlier estimates.  Overall, the
storm is reasonably well organized, with convection near the center
and a large central dense overcast.  Intensity estimates are about
the same as the last cycle, so the initial wind speed remains 45 kt.

There aren't many changes to the intensity prediction reasoning in
this advisory.  Increasing shear is forecast to otherwise counteract
a conducive environment, leading to little net change with Philippe
during the next couple of days.  Afterwards, models are in quite
poor agreement on if the shear continues to rise to strong levels,
which causes dissipation like the ECMWF, or if it becomes more
manageable to allow for further intensification, similar to the
GFS's hurricane forecast at day 5.  There are no obvious clues to
the correct solution, and this is probably a very difficult forecast
due to the feedback of Philippe's track affecting intensity, in
addition to the inherent challenges of moderate shear cases. Thus,
little change was made to the intensity forecast, which lies near
the overall model and corrected-consensus aids.

The storm appears to be moving west-northwestward or 290/10 kt. The
subtropical ridge to the north of Philippe is forecast to gradually
weaken and slide eastward in a day or two, allowing the tropical
storm to move more west-northwestward and northwestward by the
middle of the week.  Uncertainty is large after that point, with the
track very likely also dependent on the intensity and vortex depth,
and the GFS and ECMWF models are on the opposite sides of the
guidance envelope.  The long-range guidance has shifted a bit
westward on this cycle, and the new forecast follows that trend.
However, this forecast should be considered low-confidence in both
track and intensity.


FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT  24/2100Z 16.8N  42.5W   45 KT  50 MPH
 12H  25/0600Z 17.3N  44.1W   45 KT  50 MPH
 24H  25/1800Z 17.8N  46.4W   45 KT  50 MPH
 36H  26/0600Z 18.2N  48.6W   45 KT  50 MPH
 48H  26/1800Z 18.8N  50.4W   45 KT  50 MPH
 60H  27/0600Z 19.7N  52.0W   50 KT  60 MPH
 72H  27/1800Z 21.0N  53.5W   50 KT  60 MPH
 96H  28/1800Z 23.0N  55.5W   55 KT  65 MPH
120H  29/1800Z 25.0N  57.0W   60 KT  70 MPH

$$
Forecaster Blake
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